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marijnbax2
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SAP group reporting is now 6 years old after its first release in may 2017. BPC has been around since 2007 since it was bought from Outlooksoft. Several versions of BPC have been around since its first release; Standard, Embedded, optimized and a Microsoft version. In this article I’ll try to compare the functionalities of BPC Standard (as this is the mostly used version) compared to what has so far been develop in Group Reporting version 2022 on premise by taking into account some of the main aspects of the consolidation process.

  1. Data Collection / Data Entry

  2. Master Data

  3. Validation

  4. Logic / Enhancements

  5. Ownership and Consolidation of Investments

  6. Reporting

  7. Security

  8. Process Flows


 

1.      Data Collection / Data Entry


Group Reporting seamlessly integrates with S4 accounting. There is standard functionality in the data monitor to import the data from S4 (ACDOCA). Standard mapping tables are available in FIORI apps to map GL accounts to FS (Financial Statement) items. The system indicates any unmapped items as a means of pre validation. On loading the data there is a clear overview of the amount of records loaded and load errors are indicated. For any data that is not available in an underlying S4 system one has to use a flat file upload or journal upload. Alternatively the GRDC (group reporting data collection) licence can be purchased to have additional functionality for collecting and reclassifying  data. This is especially relevant for organisations that do not have all of their company codes running on S4 HANA operational accounting. Input schedules can be created and API's are available to Collect data similar to the EPM add in in BPC. The extension ledger also provides additional functionality by means of a single entity being able to post to multiple consolidation units and

In BPC one has to manage data manager packages that point to transformation and conversion files. Setting these up is a bit more complex compared to how it’s done in group reporting as you have to manage separate files/worksheets for each conversion. It does offer similar flexibility. One member in the source can be mapped to an other one in BPC potentially also with the use of “if” formulas.

2.      Master Data


Group reporting has the benefit that some master data Items can be sourced from the S4 systems and therefore don’t need dual maintenance or replication. This goes for instance for Profit Center, Cost Center, GL account, WBS element, Customer, Material Number, Vendor etc. This goes as well for any hierarchies that these dimensions could have.

The downside is that the master data that is not sourced from S/4 (FS Item, Reporting Item, Movement Type, Functional Area, Posting Level, Document type etc.) , Need to be manually replicated across the DTAP landscape. This goes for all configuration that is done in Fiori Apps. So Reporting Rules, Global Hierarchies, Validations, FS Items etc all need to be manually replicated in all systems.

Group Reporting does not seem to have any issues with having 40+ dimensions, where with a standard BPC Consolidation implementation normally you would not go beyond 12. Having this far more granular data is a big benefit of Group Reporting. One could think of doing management consolidation and management reporting out of the group reporting.

Group Reporting delivered content comes with predefined FS item attributes. Creation of new attributes is not supported. This is really a limitation once you are in a more complex environment.

3.      Validations / Controls


Validations and controls don’t differ that much between the two products. Both have functionality to break down the validations further by movement type and or functional area. BPC does have far better functionality to build validations reports in the EPM add in. We’ll get back to this on the reporting part. Group Reporting has the ability to include more than 2 dimensions in a validation wh

4.      Logic / Enhancements


Group Reporting has functionality to include a Badi as one of the process steps in the data or consolidation monitor but there is no such thing in as BPC’s default logic. Default logic get’s executed every time data is loaded or entered into the system. This gives a lot of flexibility with regards to reclassifying data as well as to transfer the  net income to the balance sheet so that this is always up to date

5.      Ownership and Consolidation of Investments


Entering ownership of subsidiaries in Group Reporting is not as straight forward as it is in BPC. Group Reporting does not have an ownership model neither does it have an ownership manager. Instead, you have to make a download of your equity and investment accounts, and reverse out the amounts, then bring in the amounts again but with a percentage ownership against the share accounts. In my opinion this is really a step back compared to BPC.

Equity pickup is again a manual process in Group Reporting. After having done the configuration of the accounts, you can make a download, that needs to be turned in to a journal upload file in the parent company. In BPC this can be fully automated.

In group reporting you have the choice between activity based and Rule based consolidation of investments. In the activity based version SAP have pre-configured the eliminations. The only thing that needs to be competed is to tag FS Items with the correct properties. The limitation is that a property can only be used for 1 FS item. Personally, I would always go for rule based to remain flexible and future proof. The rule based consolidation of investments does not differ that much from BPC Reporting

6.      Reporting


The tool is called Group “Reporting” but it does not really live up to its name. The Fiori Apps; Group Data Analysis (with reporting rules) are a bit comparable to the BPC web reporting functionality. It’s just a drag and drop of dimensions with no ability to (conditional) format, suppress, local calculations, Layout, Retrieve Cells etc like what is possible in the EPM add-in in BPC. Group Reporting also offers the possibility to report out of Analysis 4 Office which gives better functionality than Fiori and now with new features like Local Members and Formula based reports it's getting a lot closer to the capabilities of the BPC EPM Add-in.

Of course SAP’s strategic reporting tool is Analytics Cloud but this requires an additional licence. It also requires data to be persisted in SAC as with a live connection the reporting capabilities are also quite limited. Another option would be to use a last mile software like disclosure management, but again this requires and additional licence. BPC outperforms Group Reporting by far on this topic.

In group reporting 2023 a Financial Statement Reporting Booklet will be introduced, (which is already available in the cloud version). this app has had some positive feedback from customers. Reporting rules in Group Reporting also offer on the fly calculations of a combination of FS Item, Subitem (Transaction type or Functional Area), Consolation Unit, Document Type and reverse sign. This functionality is quite strong except for when it needs to be interfaced to BW / SAC. Indirect Cash Flow and a PL by Function can easily be created with these rules.

7.      Security


Security in Group Reporting is done the same way as it is done in S4 Accounting, whereas in BPC a separate security administration is needed. Having the roles and profiles managed by the S4 Team gives an economy of scale.

8.      Process Flows


Standard Processes in data- and consolidation monitor are available. Since Group Reporting is most relevant to customers that have all their data in S4 accounting, the process integrates less well with linking to means of reclassifying data in input schedules as well as to reviewing data in reports. BPC has a customization function in terms of BPF and designing a Custom Menu in Excel. This integrates much better with the EPM add-in for input schedules and reports.

So why would you move to group reporting


Well, first of all; SAP is not giving you much choice as the support (depending on your version) will stop within the next 4 years. Second would be that Group Reporting is SAP’s strategic consolidation solution moving forward. In particular for customers who are using or implementing S4 HANA operational accounting. This is irrespective of the deployment option (cloud or on-premise). It would make sense to have each and every company live on a single S4 instance as otherwise one would have to set up temporary interfaces until the moment these companies go live on S4. Central Finance could also be used but this again requires an additional licence. There is a big benefit for companies that have (most of their) companies live on S4 accounting as the data integration, granularity and analysis are much better than BPC’s. The downsides are that BPC, being the mature product that it is, has better functionality in other area’s. Let’s hope that SAP keeps investing in Group Reporting to make it the complete product that BPC already is and to have to great data integration that Group Reporting already has.

With regards to an implementation of group reporting it makes sense to have the requirements sessions together with S4 Operational Accounting but to start the implementation after S4 Operational Accounting has gone live. As the two systems are interlinked, changes in S4 Operational Accounting could also affect Group Reporting which will result in additional effort.
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Arleigh
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Hi Marijin,

I thought your blog post was well written and you laid out your assumptions/arguments quite logically.  However I don't agree with several of your Conclusions.  Perhaps some of this is due to recent innovations delivered in S/4HANA Group Reporting 2021 and 2022 that have swayed the functionality needle more in favor of Group Reporting.

Due to lack of time I'll limit my feedback to just two areas  I also want to fully disclose that my focus in SAP field sales for the past 4+ years has been 100% on Group Reporting.  So my depth of knowledge in BPC is not strong but my experience with Group Reporting is extensive.

DATA COLLECTION/DATA ENTRY -  Group Reporting 2021 SP01 introduced the Group Reporting Preparation Ledger.  This is a significant enhancement to the already outstanding direct integration.  It allows greater flexibility (with 2022 especially) where One Entity in S/4HANA can now post to multiple Consolidation Units in Group Reporting.  In addition it improved performance and the audit trail between S/4 and Group Reporting as now Group Reporting Dimensions (Cons Unit, FS ITEM, Sub Item, etc.) are now populated in the local Universal Journal (ACDOCA) so releasing data to Group Reporting is now faster, more flexible and with an even stronger audit trail then the previous strong direct integration. The direct integration offered between S/4HANA and Group Reporting is far beyond any previous consolidations solution offered by SAP that I'm aware of..

With regards to Data Collections the mapping capabilities are quite strong.  So the source data to be brought in directly to Group Reporting (no need to setup dummy S/4 companies) or to use Central Finance (if you only are considering Consolidations). Yes it's an additional license (for now) but it's not expensive and it also offers the ability to create quite useful custom input schedules.  It has come a long way in the past year and has a strong roadmap as it's upgraded independently from S/4HANA as it's a BTP application.  So with Data Collections I do not believe it gives up any functionality to BPC for non S/4HANA companies and the Input Schedules in Data Collections mean you don't need this in Excel.

REPORTING - Another area I think missed the mark.  Yes if you only look at the existing Data Analysis Fiori apps I would agree with you.  But what you probably haven't seen is a new Fiorir Reporting app called the Financial Statement Reporting Booklet which came out over a year ago in Public Cloud Group Reporting. Version 2.0 of this tool is planned for  this August and is planned to be part of Group Reporting OnPrem 2023.  This app offers much more flexibility in reporting but at the same time a much improved customer experience. Feedback from customers on this tool has been quite strong.

Another area I think your not giving enough credit too is Excel Analysis for Office (AO).  Your right in the drag and drop ability of Excel AO is similar to the standard reporting but with formatting and flexibility enhancements not offered in the original Fiori Data analysis.  At the same time AO supports Formula Based Reporting which means I can crate very specific formatted reports where cell by cell it extracts live data directly from Group Reporting.  So creating stylized reports with data columns both right and left with text in the center is something we show on nearly every presentation.

And while SAC is an additional license it again offers allot of capabilities to collect comments, assign reporting tasks, burst and distribute reports that you might not be aware of.

Earlier you mention the huge list of dimensions but you didn't delve into the Flexible Reporting around Eliminations made possible by the Effective Dating Reporting logic..  This has been a huge benefit to customers who do reorganizations and need eliminations to not be hard coded to one hierarchy. Also the eliminations not just by Company but by Profit Center and Segment are supported with this same logic.

I strongly disagree with your assertion that BPC outperforms Group Reporting in this area. I asset its' the opposite.

Closing Remarks

There are other recent innovations in 2022 with the greatly enhanced Extension Versions that makes what if reporting far more easier with little to no additional overhead. Check this out sometime.

I always though BPC was a great Consolidations tool for it's time.  But by bringing Consolidations back home to the Core ERP of S/4HANA there are just to many fundamental benefits that are gained over stand alone solutions (IMHO).   Yes we can always use more functionality but if you check the public roadmaps you'll see some very exciting capabilities planned for the future including full integration to the Advanced Financial Closing Tool (so the scheduling/monitor tool of local close will also be for your Group Close).

I enjoy these type of conversations and I hope you take all my feedback as constructive dialog and definitely would be open to having a conversation with you in the future!

All the best

Arleigh
marijnbax2
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Hi Arleigh,

Thanks for you constructive feedback. It's great to have conversations like these. I should have probably mentioned that I'm comparing to Group Reporting 2022 on prem.

My personal knowledge is more on the BPC side and a bit less on Group Reporting. I have done 1 implementation so we probably compliment each other well. I will make a few edits to my article later on based on your feedback.

I have not (yet) worked with the data collections tool in group reporting and therefore I probably lack the knowledge. Thanks for adding the information.

I have only worked with the GR 2021/22 on prem versions. Indeed I have not seen the Financial Statement Reporting Booklet. I also do not have enough experience with AFO but will edit based on your feedback. I'm aware of SAC's capabilities, but did not mention them as it's not really the scope of this article.

You are right that reporting logic can be quite powerfull, however, since they are "on the fly" calculations, you can not extract them to BW or using the data persisted in SAC.

I fully agree with you that the integration with operational accounting is one of the great assets of Group Reporting, there are no other tools that have comparable functionality!

Again, thanks and will update once I have a bit more time!

Best Regards, Marijn
Arleigh
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Hi Marjin,

Why don't you reach out and we can schedule an hour or two and I can take you through demonstrations of live software and  show you some of the latest and greatest.  I'm located in California so Pacific Standard time.  It would be great for me to know more about BPC too!

Also there is a blog out there done by Hari Subramanian that discusses and new API he built that extracts data from ACDOCU BUT applies the Elimination report logic so the extraction to external Data Warehouses DOES include the elimination parent.

Group Reporting has more then 700 licensed customers now (more then half are still in implementation )  and several really large and challenging global corporations have been successfully using it.  At the same time one of the things I really admire about the Team behind the product is they really listen to customer feedback through the portal and a large % of the enhancements they make are a direct result of those requests and feedback.

I'm really looking forward to the delivery of greatly improved Monitors which the 1st is planned for August 2023 and the integration with Advanced Financial Close which is planned 2024/2025.  This will really improve the ease of use / customer experience.

 
JoseSuarezBlas
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Thanks for the post, I think you are missing one important difference between GR and BPC. The way GR manage multiple consolidation groups and integrate data between them is not flexible, the only way to achieve this is using a manual Workaround with GRDC (additional license). In SAP BPC you can achieve this automatically. In my opinion this is one of the biggest GAPs in SAP GR.

Also you mention that one of the main points moving forward to GR is the short Maintenance timelines for SAP BPC, thats not true at all as you can check in this link https://blogs.sap.com/2023/01/23/maintenance-timelines-for-sap-business-planning-and-consolidation-s...

  • “The latest SAP BPC release, which supports the SAP BW/4HANA product line will be aligned with the SAP S/4HANA maintenance extension and will be maintained until at least 2040.”


Regards.

 
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Can you please kindly me know if you are aware of some APIs or the way to integrate BPC to Group Reporting (ACDOCU S/4 Hana)

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Can you please kindly me know if you are aware of some APIs or the way to integrate BPC to Group Reporting (ACDOCU S/4 Hana)

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Can you please kindly me know if you are aware of some APIs or the way to integrate BPC to Group Reporting (ACDOCU S/4 Hana)

marijnbax2
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Hi,

I'm not sure why you would want to integrate BPC with Group Reporting. Group Reporting is meant to replace BPC, not to integrate. Can you Elaborate on your case?
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