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DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
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Abstract


This blog post is about a strategic feature of SAP Datasphere, namely the SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge. SAP offers its customers through RISE with SAP, the opportunity to move with a business transformation as a service (BTaaS) to the cloud. For BW customers, this means SAP BW to SAP Datasphere. SAP positions SAP Datasphere as the strategic target solution for Data Warehousing in the public cloud, with SAP BW/4HANA Private Cloud Edition (PCE) as an option to start the transition. In this context, SAP BW bridge offers customers the opportunity to implement their new data warehousing use cases directly in the cloud environment while protecting, and retaining their existing on-premises investments. The blog provides an overview about SAP BW bridge, explains how to move from an existing SAP BW system to the cloud, and gives insights with a complete end-to-end greenfield scenario including a system demo in SAP Datasphere.

Overview


SAP Datasphere is SAP's offering for all data warehousing use cases. This SaaS (Software-as-a-Service) is based on SAP HANA Cloud. It combines data, and analytics in a cloud solution that offers data integration, database, data warehouse, and analytics services. This enables customers to realize the full potential of a data-driven business. As a way to improve the integration with SAP ERP systems, the SAP BW bridge enables ABAP-based data extraction and staging capabilities within SAP Datasphere (see figure 1).


Figure 1: SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge. Overview of data integration


In the future, a tool-based transfer of existing SAP BW and SAP BW/4HANA staging scenarios will be enabled. Then the SAP BW bridge will enable a seamless transfer of existing ETL processes in a dedicated SAP BW bridge Space in SAP Datasphere. Here, the extensive functions of ODP extractors, and ABAP code within the SAP Business Technology Platform (SAP BTP) ABAP environment can be adopted in SAP Datasphere using the Cross-Space-Sharing approach.

SAP BW to SAP Datasphere


Within SAP BW bridge, customers are able to implement data extraction and staging scenarios up to the CompositeProvider level. In other words, it is not possible to create new queries within the SAP BW bridge environment. In this regard, within the SAP BW bridge, there is no support for OLAP engine, and functionality dependent on OLAP (e.g., analysis authorizations, query as info provider, query execution). Front-End tools do not have the possibility to access SAP BW bridge artefacts directly.


Figure 2: Future Modeling Capabilities in SAP Datasphere


The SAP BW bridge environment is primarily intended for ODP-based source systems, which means that the connection scenarios only become available via Operational Data Provisioning (ODP). Non-SAP sources will be connected directly to SAP Datasphere (see figure 2). Objects from source SAP BW system(s) will be converted to the SAP BW bridge environment using Conversion Tools, including the SAP BW queries.

To take the full advantage of SAP's data warehousing offerings, customers today need to deploy both SAP BW/4HANA, and SAP Datasphere. In the future, the SAP BW bridge will enable customers to merge these offerings into a single data warehouse solution in the cloud. With SAP BW bridge, SAP addresses BW customers that are looking for a way forward from SAP BW NetWeaver, and SAP BW/4HANA (See figure 3).


Figure 3: SAP BW bridge Migration Path


SAP BW Customers will have the option in 2022 to convert their existing on-premises investments to the cloud via remote, and shell conversion. First, the SAP BW bridge conversion will be offered for SAP BW 7.4, and SAP BW 7.5 systems (initially as shell conversion, followed as remote conversion), subsequently the conversion for SAP BW 7.3 systems (shell and remote conversion) will be available. Additionally, the conversion will be available for SAP BW/4HANA 2021 (shell and remote conversion). Regarding release coverage, please consider the details in the roadmap. Customers with lower SAP BW releases will need to upgrade their system(s) first, and then convert the required scope to SAP BW bridge in SAP Datasphere. Please note that SAP BW systems 7.40, and lower are already out of maintenance (see figure 4). A dedicated blog post is available, see Conversion to SAP Datasphere: Conversion Paths and Cloud Transformation Steps.


Figure 4: SAP BW bridge. SAP BW to SAP Datasphere


The SAP BW bridge artefacts out of the Business Technology Platform (SAP BTP) ABAP environment are available via remote tables using SAP HANA Cloud Smart-Data-Access (SDA) in a dedicated SAP BW bridge Space in SAP Datasphere. The remote tables in the SAP BW bridge Space can then be used in the regular SAP Datasphere Spaces via the SAP Datasphere cross-space sharing approach.

Add-ons are not supported in SAP BW bridge. Therefore, planning is not available within SAP BW bridge. In this regard, SAP positions SAP Analytics Cloud Planning as the planning application, and in the future (earliest end of 2022) SAP Datasphere as the planning foundation for the data. Application development is not supported in SAP BW bridge. Any app development should be done via the Business Technology Platform App Building on SAP HANA, for which customers need to license, and use the stand-alone version of SAP Business Technology Platform ABAP Environment.

Target Scenarios for SAP BW bridge




Greenfield with SAP Legacy Sources
Customers building a new data warehouse in the cloud with SAP Legacy systems as data sources that will only be migrated to a cloud-based system in the future. Expecting the same level of data integration, and convenience functions as known from SAP BW/4HANA.

Conversion with SAP BW NetWeaver & SAP BW/4HANA 2021
Customers with an SAP BW (SAP BW 7.3 and upwards, any DB) moving their data warehouse to the cloud expecting to retain their data, and their legacy data flows, but renovating their data consumption layer with SAP Analytics Cloud or 3rd party clients on top, and expanding their data footprint to cloud, and non-SAP sources.

Hybrid with SAP BW/4HANA
Customers with an on-premise SAP BW/4HANA looking for a path into the cloud for their data warehouse workload. Starting with hybrid scenarios for consumption to combine SAP BW/4HANA data, and SAP Datasphere data, and then easily moving more and more of the SAP BW/4HANA data flows to the cloud, and successively transition them to modern SAP Datasphere data ingestion approaches.



End-To-End Greenfield Scenario








As an example, the Greenfield approach is demonstrated in the following use case (See Figure 5). This means when the customer operates SAP Datasphere together with SAP BW bridge to connect SAP on-premises systems. This provides proven SAP BW-based data integration technology for ABAP-based SAP systems, and enables the rich feature set of extractors in SAP Datasphere.

Figure 5: Architecture of End-To-End Greenfield Scenario


The SAP BW bridge data, and processes are administered, and managed via an SAP UI5 environment called SAP BW bridge Cockpit. The implementation of new objects is done within Eclipse via SAP BW Modeling Tools, and ABAP Development Tools. Within the SAP Datasphere, the SAP BW bridge artefacts are available via remote tables, and can be used via the SAP Datasphere cross-space sharing approach. An SAP GUI is not required to access the SAP BW bridge environment.

SAP BW bridge: Development-Environment


In the following data flow (see figure 6) it can be seen, that the Eclipse environment with SAP BW Modeling Tools, and ABAP Development Tools are used. The well-known SAP flight data model is the foundation for this use case.


Figure 6: Eclipse Environment for SAP BW bridge


In this scenario, the tables "Flight" for transaction data, and "Airline carrier" for master data are considered. The left branch of the data model handles transaction data, the data is loaded from an SAP ECC system respectively a classic ABAP extractor. The right branch of the data model handles master data, the data is loaded from a CDS view. As it can be seen, there is still the subdivision into master data texts, and master data attributes. Within the data flow, transformations, and data transfer processes are used to load data into the advanced DataStore Object, and the master data-bearing InfoObject. Within the Composite Provider, the data is then combined with a join.

The SAP BW bridge component is primarily intended for ODP-based source systems. In this regard, customers have the option to create source systems in the context of ODP. This means that ODP-BW, ODP-SAP, ODP-CDS, and ODP-SLT based source systems can be connected. This offers the additional benefits of the Operational Data Provisioning Framework, such as Extract Once Deploy Many, data compression, and more.


Figure 7: SAP UI5 Environment for SAP BW bridge


Dedicated process chains are created for both branches in order to load data into the InfoProviders. The process chains are modelled in the SAP UI5 environment for SAP BW bridge called SAP BW bridge Cockpit (see figure 7).

SAP BW bridge Space in SAP Datasphere


If a customer wants to use SAP BW bridge, a provisioning process is triggered by SAP. With that, there will be a dedicated Space for SAP BW bridge in the SAP Datasphere Tenant itself, generated by the provisioning process. This space then has a specific type “SAP BW bridge” (see figure 8).


Figure 8: Space Type: SAP BW bridge


In the generated SAP BW bridge Space, a connection (see figure 9a) to the SAP BW bridge environment, within the SAP Business Technology Platform, will be generated that contains an SAP HANA Cloud Smart Data Access endpoint, and a HTTP ABAP endpoint. It is possible to connect only one SAP BW bridge System to an SAP Datasphere tenant.


Figure 9a: Connection to SAP BW bridge


The SAP HANA Cloud Smart Data Access endpoint is used to connect to the external schema of SAP BW bridge’s SAP HANA Cloud Database that contains the read-only views to the data tables, for moving over the data. The HTTP ABAP endpoint is used to be able to call Monitor UIs via Single Sign on with a named user, and to get Meta Data e.g., for a value help or import of SAP BW bridge Objects (see figure 9b).


Figure 9b: Connection to SAP BW bridge


The new connection type cannot be edited by a user in the SAP BW bridge Space, as this connection will be generated by the SAP BW bridge provisioning process automatically. The credentials for the SAP HANA Cloud Smart Data Access connection are provided when the connection is generated. The data tables of the Business Technology Platform environment for SAP BW bridge are exposed as remote tables in the SAP BW bridge Space.

Important: The SAP BW Service Key should be copied, as this needs to be entered when an SAP BW bridge project is set up in Eclipse.


Figure 9c: Connection to SAP BW bridge


Inside the SAP BW bridge Space, the Create-Button for new connections is disabled, as this Space is restricted to the SAP BW bridge only. The Real-Time Replication Status is inactive for this connection, as it only allows Remote Tables (see figure 9c).

SAP BW bridge Space: Data Builder for importing remote tables


The main purpose of the Data Builder regarding the SAP BW bridge Space (see figure 10) is to import, and share the remote tables for other Spaces, using the Cross-Space Sharing Approach of SAP Datasphere. Unlike the regular Spaces of SAP Datasphere, it is not possible to create Tables, Graphical Views, SQL Views, Entity Relationship Models, or Data Flows within the Data Builder of a SAP BW bridge Space. SAP Datasphere artefacts using the SAP BW bridge remote tables can only be created in other spaces based on the shared remote tables.


Figure 10: SAP BW bridge Space: Data Builder


Using the Import button in the Data Builder, then via "Import Remote Tables", the tables of SAP BW bridge InfoProvider can be accessed via the underlying connection (see figure 11).


Figure 11: Import Remote Tables


In the “Import Remote Tables” wizard there is only one connection available, the connection to the SAP BW bridge System (see figure 12). By selecting the defined connection, the connection gets validated. If the validation process is successful, the next step is available.


Figure 12: Connection to SAP BW bridge


The wizard for the data tables of SAP BW bridge InfoProvider contain the following data tables, which are then available as Remote Tables in SAP BW bridge Space in SAP Datasphere itself.

  • Advanced DataStore Object (Reporting View)

  • Composite Provider

  • Master Data Tables

    • Attributes

    • Texts




The data tables are displayed by InfoAreas (see figure 13). It is possible to multi select tables to support a mass take over. It is also possible to select an entire InfoArea, then all the tables underneath the objects are selected. Afterwards it is possible to deselect some tables (then the InfoArea can be deselected).


Figure 13: Select SAP BW bridge InfoProvider


The last step displays the list of objects which are ready for import. There is one more section for Remote Tables, which are already in the repository of SAP Datasphere. The user can also change the technical name, and the business name of the appropriate object. Via “Import and Deploy” the remote tables will be generated with Semantic Usage as Relational Dataset. The Master Data Text tables can be generated as either Dimension or Text (see figure 14).


Figure 14: Import and Deploy Remote Tables


Next, the remote tables located in the SAP BW bridge Space in SAP Datasphere need to be shared with the regular SAP Datasphere Spaces. As already outlined before, the main functionality here is to import, and share the remote tables for other spaces. SAP Datasphere artefacts using the remote tables can only be created in other spaces, based on the shared remote tables.

In my example, I have created a standard SAP Datasphere Space "DENIZBWBRIDGE", which consumes the artefacts, and allows further implementation within the SAP Datasphere (see figure 15).


Figure 15: Share Remote Tables



SAP Datasphere Space: Consuming Shared SAP BW bridge Artefacts


Within standard SAP Datasphere Spaces, the shared SAP BW bridge Remote Tables can be accessed, and other SAP Datasphere functionality can be applied accordingly (see figure 16).


Figure 16: Graphical View in SAP Datasphere


The following SQL code of the previous graphical view (see figure 17) states that the view within the standard SAP Datasphere Space accesses the remote tables of the SAP BW bridge Space in SAP Datasphere.
SELECT *
FROM (("BWBRIDGEDEMO.ZDOFLIGHTREPORTING" AS "ZDOFLIGHTREPORTING"
INNER JOIN "BWBRIDGEDEMO.ZDO_AIRLATTRIBUTES" AS "ZDO_AIRLATTRIBUTES"
ON "ZDOFLIGHTREPORTING"."CARRID" = "ZDO_AIRLATTRIBUTES"."ZDO_AIRL")
INNER JOIN "BWBRIDGEDEMO.ZDO_AIRLTEXT" AS "ZDO_AIRLTEXT"
ON "ZDO_AIRLATTRIBUTES"."ZDO_AIRL" = "ZDO_AIRLTEXT"."ZDO_AIRL");

Figure 17: SQL-Code of Graphical View



SAP Analytics Cloud: Story based on SAP BW bridge data


Finally, based on the analytical data set of SAP Datasphere, which in this case processes SAP BW bridge data, a visualisation of the data can be done via SAP Analytics Cloud (see figure 18) or any other 3rd party front end solution.


Figure 18: Story in SAP Analytics Cloud


Like for other data models in SAP Datasphere you can use SAP Datasphere Live Data Connection of SAP Analytics Cloud. However, SAP Analytics Cloud generally has certain limitations with SAP Datasphere Live Data Connection, detailed information is available in SAP Note 2832606.

SAP BW bridge Space: Data Integration Monitor



Figure 19: Data Integration Monitor for SAP BW bridge Space


Within the SAP BW bridge Space only Remote Tables are available. For the Data Integration Monitor of the SAP BW bridge Space that means, that the View Persistency Monitor, and Data Flow Monitor are not visible (see figure 19).The available functionalities here are the Remote Table Monitor, and Remote Query Monitor. In addition, access to the SAP BW bridge Cockpit is possible via the Data Integration Monitor of the SAP BW bridge Space.

Limitations of SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge



  • Application development is not supported in SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge. Any app building should be done "natively" using the SAP BTP app building on SAP HANA, for that customers need to license and use the stand-alone version of SAP BTP.

  • Customer do not have the option to connect with SAP GUI to SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge.

  • Connection scenarios are limited to ODP source systems only.

  • Queries are not supported.

  • No support for the OLAP engine and functionality dependent on the OLAP engine, e.g., analysis authorizations, query as InfoProvider, query execution.

  • The generation of External SAP HANA Views is not supported.

  • Planning is not available in SAP BW bridge. Therefore, SAP positions SAP Analytics Cloud Planning as the SAP Planning Application and SAP Datasphere as the Planning foundation for the data. SAP Analytics Cloud Planning is the strategic direction for planning. Also, as highlighted already at SAP SAPPHIRE NOW 2021, future releases will make SAP Datasphere the foundation for SAP's planning solutions.

  • In SAP BW bridge, add-ons (such as BCS, DSiM, TPM, …) are not supported. The use of SEM-BCS or BCS/4HANA is not supported in SAP Datasphere – explore other solutions like SAP Group Reporting instead.

  • For DataStore objects, cold store and DTO handling are not supported.

  • For CompositeProviders, temporal joins are not supported.

  • For DTPs, variables as selection criteria are not supported.

  • The following process types are not supported in SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge:
    ABAP, ADSOOLR, ARCHIVE, BDHTASKWF, BDHVFLOW, BOBJDSJOB, BOBJEVENT, CL_ARCHIVE, COMMAND, CPS_EVENT, CPS_JOB, DTO_EXEC, HAAP, OHD_NOTIFY, PLSEQ, PLSWITCHL, PLSWITCHP, REMOTE, RS2HANA, RSDASYB_PM, RSSDA_STAT, SDI_INIT, WORKFLOW


End-to-End Demo for SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge


The following video demonstrates the steps for an entire end-to-end greenfield scenario in SAP Datasphere using SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge. Finally, the data is visualised in SAP Analytics Cloud. The video is also available on the official SAP Technology YouTube Channel.


Summary



The value of SAP Datasphere is clearly recognized by many of SAP's existing data warehousing customers. However, they want a seamless migration path, and do not want to implement their existing data warehousing logic from scratch. At the same time, the market wants a single-target solution to reduce the system landscape complexity, and costs. This is where SAP BW bridge helps to accelerate the transition to cloud data warehousing while protecting previous, and new implementation investments in the cloud. This enables the integration of on-premises SAP Business Suite data with trusted connectivity, and semantic richness (business content). It also enables organizations to rapidly innovate on SAP BW data with an open, unified, data and analytics service in the cloud.

Find further information to get started with SAP Datasphere and check out the Best Practices on the Community for SAP Datasphere. Please also check out this blog post regarding this topic. Additionally, this brochure provides an overview of SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge. It is also recommended to check the SAP Note 3117800 - Information/Restrictions for SAP DWC, SAP BW bridge. You will find more information about what is new or changed with SAP BW bridge on the SAP Help Portal: New Features and Changes in SAP Datasphere, SAP BW bridge.

Please let me know, if you have any specific question. SAP’s Experts from SAP Data Warehouse Product Management & Strategy, and SAP Data Warehouse Development are involved in this topic.

Thanks to my colleagues Klaus-Peter Sauer, Dominik Graus, Gordon Witzel, Dirk Janning, and Udo Bätz for their support.

Best regards,
Deniz
132 Comments
shoaib_haider
Advisor
Advisor
Hi Deniz,

Great and very informative blog here. I have the following questions after reading the whole blog if you could perhaps comment on the same.

  1. If we have built some BW objects using Embedded BW (7.5) in S/4HANA 1610 system, can we bring some of those BW 7.5 artifacts to DWC using the new BW Bridge concept? Or is it totally for fully functional and standalone BW Netweaver?

  2. Is DWC BW Bridge a separate subscription or it comes free of cost for the DWC customers?

  3. Can we bring in S/4HANA CDS views from a S/4HANA OP system to DWC?

  4. Can we Persist some of the data from the S/4HANA 1610 and 2020 system tables in a DWC table and build some further logic/calculation/join using the data builder/data flows?


Thanks

Best Regards

Shoaib
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Hi Shoaib,

thanks for your feedback, and your interest.

  1. Yes, an Embedded BW (release 7.5) can be used as a sender system for a conversion to SAP BW bridge.
  2. SAP BW bridge is an additional feature for SAP Data Warehouse Cloud. Here, the customer needs additional capacity units explicitly for the SAP BW bridge environment. The customer contacts Sales and the order form with the (additional) CUs then triggers the installation. Feel free to check the Pricing Calculator.
  3. Yes. For CDS views in SAP S/4HANA on-premise environment, this is done via the SAP SDI ABAP adapter, and for CDS views in SAP S/4HANA Cloud environment, this is done via the SAP SDI CloudDataIntegration adapter.
  4. Yes, persisting data in SAP Data Warehouse Cloud is possible. There are various options here, e.g., via the Remote Table Monitor (table replication), View Persistency Monitor (snapshot option).

Kind regards,
Deniz

shoaib_haider
Advisor
Advisor
Thanks Deniz for the clarity. Appreciate it
paulvatter
Participant
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hi deniz.osoy

regarding 1: Embedded BWs are BW 7.5x where x is > 0 -  so e.g. 7.55 or 7.54.

As far as I know they are not supported for the conversion tools into BW/4 so I would be surprised if this would have changed. Could you maybe recheck this?

Thanks and best regards

Paul
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your remark. Any SAP BW system that exists "inside" an SAP ECC or SAP S/4HANA system is considered an Embedded SAP BW, regardless of the version (This is valid since release 7.0). Therefore if you have software component SAP_BW installed along with SAP ECC or SAP S/4HANA, it is an Embedded SAP BW no matter its version. The difference here is that versions 7.51+ have specific functionalities to be used along with SAP ECC or SAP S/4HANA, which older versions do not. See SAP Note 2773651 for details. 

An embedded SAP BW system Release 7.50 & 7.51 can be used as a sender system for a conversion towards SAP BW bridge.

If the embedded SAP BW has a release > 7.51, then there are no coding fixes provided by the SAP support team. This means that the existing conversion tasklists in the sender system are no longer updated after delivery (SP0). A conversion towards SAP BW bridge with an embedded BW system > 7.51 is not possible, as the corresponding functionality is not available. If the embedded BW system is Release > 7.51, a possible recommendation would be to transfer the objects to a standalone sandbox SAP BW 7.50 system via a transport request, and to use this system as the sender system.

Best regards,
Deniz

paulvatter
Participant
Thanks for your detailed reply, Deniz!
Hi Deniz!

 

Excellent blog, and very clear information. I would like to ask you some questions, hopefully is not lat for it 🙂

Today, we are currently in BW (7.5) on HANA (2) on promise. with low performance because of size, complexity and not fully LSA++ development (we still have some 3.x objects). The idea is to get more than an simple 1:1 migration (using BW4 conversion tool), so basically we need optimization and re-engineering of most of our flows, so the conclusion is that we would like to go green fields, ...so the question are:

1- With the  BW Bridge, it is possible to migrate some flows, in order to save at least the staging area, MD, etc.?

2- If not, it is possible to create a high complexity dataflows using SAP DWC, or because of this complexity, is better to re-build the solution in BW4 cloud instance?

3- If (once SAP release the migration option) we move some flows to SAP DWC, what would happens with the security around it? (roles/analytical privileges already created)

Thank you very much for all the information, and thank you in advance for answering the questions 😉

Best regards,

Lucas
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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Hi Lucas,

thanks for your feedback and your interest.

  1. Yes, partial migrations are also supported, where you can select a subset of data flows. SAP BW Customers have the option in 2022 to convert their existing on-premises investments to the cloud. With this, it is possible to convert SAP BW NetWeaver and SAP BW/4HANA objects into the SAP BW bridge environment via Conversion Tools. (See Roadmap)

    Attention regarding your 3.X objects: The Transfer Cockpit is not able to convert legacy 3.x data flows (originating in SAP BW systems before release 7.0). Such 3.x data flows must be migrated to corresponding 7.x data flows before a conversion to objects compatible with SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, SAP BW bridge is possible. As soon as 3.X objects are in use in any way, these objects must be converted (RSMIGRATE) to 7.X objects, and can then be converted to the SAP BW bridge environment.
  2. The SAP BW bridge environment is suitable for complex data flows, based on SAP ABAP sources (ODP context). It is also possible to create data flows directly in the SAP DWC Core environment, which is especially relevant for non-SAP sources and Cloud sources.

    Regarding strategic positioning, we would have to analyze your system to see whether SAP Data Warehouse Cloud or SAP BW/4HANA Private Cloud Edition (PCE) makes sense. A general recommendation is not possible.

  3. Here I would refer you to the blog post of my colleague heiko.schneider (responsible for authorizations on the SAP DWC Product Management side).
    https://blogs.sap.com/2021/09/23/introducing-remote-authorizations-from-sap-bw-4hana-for-sap-data-wa...

Best regards,
Deniz

Hi Deniz!

Excellent blog!

I was wondering when remote conversion will be available for 7.4/7.5BW system. At the moment I see only shell conversion is available.

Finally, I have searched thoroughly but have not found any precise instruction about the stesp to follow for a shell conversion and for a remote one, in case of migration from 7.5BW environment to DWC.

Any answer would be apreciated.

Regards,

Stefano

 

 

 
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Hello Stefano,

Thank you for your feedback and interest.

  1. It is planned that the Remote Conversion option for SAP BW bridge will be available with release 2205 by 21st May 2022. For SAP BW systems on releases from 7.30 to 7.50 running on SAP HANA or Any-DB, and for SAP BW/4HANA 2021, a remote conversion is planned for SAP Data Warehouse Cloud 2205. For that conversion type, a newly provisioned SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, SAP BW bridge is needed. The Transfer Cockpit can be used to migrate selected data models into an SAP BW bridge tenant and to perform a remote data transfer into that tenant.
  2. A conversion guide explicitly for SAP BW bridge will be available soon.

Best regards,
Deniz

stephan_schork
Employee
Employee
Hello Deniz,

thanks a lot for this great blog!

Best regards

Stephan

 
rsanch38
Discoverer
Hello,

 

I have a couple of doubts,

Does it possible to do extractions filtered from bw to dwc? for example, extract data dynamically (current_date -1 or other kind of rules)

Does it possible use delta extractions?

 

Regards

Ramón Sánchez.
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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Hi Ramón,

thanks for your question and your interest.

  1. SAP Data Warehouse Cloud offers several ways to control the volume of data that is loaded in your remote table. From the table editor of the Data Builder, you can remove the unnecessary columns, you can define a central filter to load only the data that is needed, and you can add new columns available in the source, or reinsert previously excluded columns.
    Attention: Customers can select existing values only. No dynamic filtering such as "last 3 years" is supported at the moment. (See SAP Help). As a workaround, you could create an SQL view within SAP DWC Core that includes an expression "CURRENT_DATE - 1" in your case.
  2. In SAP Data Warehouse Cloud it is possible to use the Real-Time Replication feature to implicitly map a delta. For ABAP ODP sources, real-time replication is supported for InfoProviders with a change log. This can be: DataStore objects (advanced) with data activation and change log, Standard DataStore objects (classic), InfoObjects. Real-Time Replication is also supported for all ABAP CDS views with primary key that are delta-enabled. If customers have extensive ODP S-API extractors in use, the recommendation here is clearly to connect them to SAP BW bridge. Using the delta procedure for most ODP S-API extractors is not supported when connecting to SAP DWC Core. The reason for this is that primary key definitions are missing.

Best regards,
Deniz

lak_sh_mi
Explorer
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Hi Deniz

Thanks for such a fantastic blog. I have a couple of questions and confirmation from your and community expertise.

  1. with respect to the software components in SAP BW 7.5, when I read here there is no SAP GUI support, that means we don't have any SAP BW Bridge software installation components right on top of a SAP BW system? Please confirm.

  2. For all 3 implementation scenarios a BW Bridge space enabled in DWC is sufficient

  3. What is a typical project time line for such conversion in the 3 scenarios, am sure it varies based on object complexities. But will the db size/volume of data determine such time lines?

  4. as the conversation seems partially automated, we can choose the objects and flows we wish to convert/migration. Does this helps to manage project time lines and priorities for conversions?


Thanks

Lakshmi

 

 
prafful_agrawal
Explorer

Hi Deniz,

Thanks for sharing the information.

How do we address below issues :-

  1. How do we manage life cycle management in BW bridge ?
  2. In single DWC Tenant , can we create multiple BW bridge space to cater the need of 3-TIER landscape (Dev ,QUA , Prod ) ?

Regards

PA

DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Hi Prafful,

thanks for your feedback and your interest.

  1. In SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, SAP BW bridge, transports are carried out via gCTS (git-based Change and Transport System. This is controlled via the software component. For SAP Data Warehouse Cloud artefacts we recommend to use ACN for transports and for the SAP BW bridge objects you can use ABAP gCTS (works similar to ABAP transports in the on-prem world). Both transport mechanisms work independently, we recommend to (1) transport the SAP BW bridge objects first, expose the data and objects in the SAP BW bridge space and then (2) transport the SAP Data Warehouse Cloud objects on top.
  2. At the moment it is not possible to have multiple SAP BW bridge spaces in the same SAP DWC tenant. A 2-tier landscape is supported. You can combine an SAP Data Warehouse Cloud test tenant with SAP BW bridge as non-productive “DEV” system and a regular SAP Data Warehouse Cloud tenant with SAP BW bridge as productive “PROD” system. 

Best regards,
Deniz

DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
Hi Lakshmi,

thanks for your feedback and your interest.

  1. SAP BW bridge is an additional feature for SAP Data Warehouse Cloud. An SAP GUI is not required to access the SAP BW bridge environment. SAP BW bridge is actually not just a component on-top of SAP BW On-Premises. It is a different product, with an independent release cycle.

  2. Yes, but the Hybrid-Scenario with SAP BW/4HANA actually works also without SAP BW bridge.

  3. It is not possible to give a general answer to this question. The effort depends very much on the number of objects, organizational structure, optimization needs, and type of conversion.

  4. Yes. Each transfer is based on a selection of a specific scope, a set of SAP BW objects, e.g. a data flow, that can be transferred together in a consistent way.


Best regards,
Deniz
prafful_agrawal
Explorer
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Hi Deniz ,

Thanks for your quick response .

Regarding Point-2 --> While reviewing the BW bridge here , I can view multiple BW bridge space available in same tenant .how is it possible? Are these referring it to same source connection ? Refer snapshot :-


Customer may have scenario like :-

(A) Source connection -- > S4HANA , ERP & BW

(B) Each source Connection have 3 tier landscape - DEV , QAS , PROD

How the above scenario can be handed with single/Multiple BW Bridge space ?

 

Regards

PA

 
DenizOsoy
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Hi Prafful,

  1. At the moment it is not possible to have multiple SAP BW bridge Spaces in the same SAP DWC Tenant. Your screenshot above from my demo doesn't actually display multiple SAP BW bridge Spaces, the "DENIZBWBRIDGE" Space is of type SAP Data Warehouse Cloud and not SAP BW bridge.

  2. Currently a 2-tier landscape is supported. Different approaches can be considered here. For example, the source systems from DEV and QAS can be connected to the SAP Data Warehouse Cloud test tenant with SAP BW bridge as a non-productive "DEV" system. The source system from PROD, for example, can be connected to the regular SAP Data Warehouse Cloud tenant with SAP BW bridge as a productive "PROD" system.


Best regards,
Deniz

prafful_agrawal
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Hi Deniz,

Thanks for your help.

Based on your reply on Point-2, I have follow-up queries & sought clarification as follows :-

  1. Question --->Does we only support 2-tier landscape What if customer wants to go for 3-tier landscape ?

  2. Clarification Required --> It appears customers will have to manage the Bw Bridge space with Dev/QAS data i.e  Metadata objects related to BW will have single image in non-production BW bridge space . Customer will have to load data from development system for Unit  test cycle & thereafter truncate Dev data and load from QAS system to perform Integration test / User acceptance cycle .

  3. In continuation to above point --> Can we connect one BW bridge space with Multiple ODP enabled systems simultaneously (BW,S4HANA ,ERP) ?


Regards

PA
DenizOsoy
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Hi Prafful,

  1. Currently, a 2-tier landscape is supported.
  2. Yes, that would be one option. Of course, customers can decide individually how they would like to proceed. A general recommendation is not possible.
  3. Yes, several ODP-based source systems (ODP-SAP, ODP-BW, ODP-CDS, and ODP-SLT) can be connected to SAP BW bridge.

If you have more detailed landscape-related questions, feel free to call me. Just send me an email.

Best regards,
Deniz

Githen_Ronney
Explorer
Hi Deniz,

Great Blog.

I have couple of doubts. I really appreciate if you can help me here.

BW bridge means, customers have to have BW and DWC licenses at the same time ?

Bridge is a middleware which helps to expose your existing BW investments to public cloud DWC ?

Is there anyway to convert existing BW system to DWC completely so that customers need not pay for BW anymore ? Something like a system conversion with SAP supported tool sets.

Regards

Githen

 

 

 
DenizOsoy
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Hi Githen,

thanks for your feedback and your interest.

  1. No, SAP BW bridge is a feature for SAP Data Warehouse Cloud and therefore available independently of SAP BW and SAP BW/4HANA.

  2. SAP BW bridge is a feature for SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, that provides a path to the public cloud for SAP BW and SAP BW/4HANA customers. It enables connectivity and business content via proven SAP BW-based data integration (extractors) from SAP source systems. In addition, it provides staging layers of SAP BW to manage data loads (including deltas) with partitioning, monitoring, and error handling. This allows customers to leverage their existing SAP BW skills and protect their SAP BW investments in the public cloud.

  3. Yes, looking at conversion, SAP offers the possibility of a tool-supported move of SAP BW or SAP BW/4HANA investments to SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, SAP BW bridge.
    A dedicated blog post is now available, see Conversion to SAP Data Warehouse Cloud: Conversion Paths and Cloud Transformation Steps


Kind regards,
Deniz
KamalMehta
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Hi Deniz,

First of all thanks for sharing the valuable information. I have few questions please:

  1. Is BW Bridge a mandatory step to consume Data flows built in BW 7.5 to DWC?

    • (ADSO's, Composite Provider, Info Objects ) : Can be consumed directly in DWC without BW Bridge. Can you confirm please.

    • (Non ODP extractors, SAPI extractors) can be consumed directly in DWC ?. If yes, Can you provide details. Also, confirm if they can be enabled for real time replication in DWC.

    • (Bex Query and components like variable, exits, conversions, authorization etc.) are not supported currently in BW bridge but can they be consumed in DWC directly.



  2. Non SAP Data sources connectivity:

    • Can you provide details/list of Non SAP connectivity/ data source supported in DWC.

    • We are checking options to merge data from SAP BW 7.5 and various other Non SAP data sources for consolidation reporting.



  3. SAC

    • Is SAC coupled with DWC. How existing SAC customers can take benefit of both the world DWC and SAC.

    • Any license/ cost benefits provided to existing SAC customers.




Regards
DenizOsoy
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Hi Kamal,

thanks for your feedback and your interest. If you have conversion-related topics, check out also SAP blog post Conversion to SAP Data Warehouse Cloud: Conversion Paths and Cloud Transformation Steps

  • 1a) No, SAP BW bridge is not mandatory when connecting SAP DWC to SAP BW 7.5. You can use the SAP BW connection type via Remote Tables in SAP DWC to access data from InfoObjects (characteristics), InfoProviders, or Queries as InfoProviders as well as from SAP ABAP dictionary tables. For legacy SAP BW systems that do not have the ABAP Pipeline Engine extension or DMIS Add-on installed, you can leverage Operational Data Provisioning (ODP) connectivity und use ODP extractors as sources in SAP DWC data flows. Note that ABAP Dictionary tables are not supported as sources in data flows.
  • 1b) If customers have extensive ODP S-API extractors in use, the recommendation here is clearly to connect them to the SAP BW bridge environment. Most ODP S-API extractors cannot be connected to SAP DWC using the delta procedure. Extraction-enabled CDS views can be used directly as a source for SAP Data Warehouse Cloud Core environment as an alternative to SAP BW bridge. Here it is possible to use the Real-Time Replication feature to implicitly map a delta.
  • 1c) Yes, in general it is possible to access queries within SAP DWC. See for example SAP Note 2932647 regarding supported and unsupported features.
  • 2) Yes, See SAP Help - Integrating Data and Managing Spaces in SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, here section “Connection Types Overview”
  • 3) Yes, definitely. SAP Analytics Cloud and SAP Data Warehouse Cloud are SAP’s strategic cloud solutions for Data Warehousing, Planning and Analytics. See the blog post by my colleague about: SAP Analytics Cloud & SAP Data Warehouse Cloud: Key Feature Overview.

Best regards,
Deniz

wounky
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Hi deniz.osoy

Could you please tell me if the ABAP Pipeline Engine extension should be by default installed in BW/4?
I noticed that some of the FMs listed for the BW (RFC based) connection which are a part of the ABAP Pipeline Engine are not available in BW4.

Kind regards,
Sebastian
DenizOsoy
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Hi Sebastian,

the ABAP Pipeline Engine (APE) component is delivered via the DMIS add-on. For SAP BW/4HANA, DMIS 2018 SP06 or higher is required. So no, it is not available by default. In fact, there are APE components in SAP_ABA, but they are already technically outdated. For more information, check out this blog post by my colleagues: ABAP Integration – Software Delivery & Installation Aspects.

Best regards,
Deniz

wounky
Participant
Thanks!
antonio_voce
Contributor

Hi

Is there any sap basis technical prerequisite in term of minimal supported SAP ECC release and Sap support packadge for SAP ECC on premise system for connection and integration to SAP DWC/BW BRIDGE? ( For use sap ECC extractor and so on in bw bridge dwc) . If yes there is a sap help or sap oss note with this prerequisites?

Thanks in advance

 

Best regards

 

 

DenizOsoy
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Hi Antonio,

thanks for your interest and your question.

You can use Operational Data Provisioning (ODP) to connect an SAP system as the source system to SAP BW Bridge. The DataSources must be released for data provisioning using Operational Data Provisioning. For information about releasing SAP DataSources and customer-defined DataSources for Operational Data Provisioning, see SAP Note 2232584.

SAP systems that provide DataSources for SAP BW Bridge using the Operational Data Provisioning Framework must have at least one of the following release levels:

SAP NetWeaver 7.0 SPS 24SAP Note 1521883
SAP NetWeaver 7.0 EHP1 SPS 09
SAP NetWeaver 7.0 EHP2 SPS 08
SAP NetWeaver 7.3 SPS 08SAP Note 1931427
SAP NetWeaver 7.3 EHP1 SPS 05
SAP NetWeaver 7.4 SPS 02
SAP NetWeaver 7.5
SAP BW/4HANA 1.0
SAP BW/4HANA 2.0
SAP BW/4HANA 2021

Best regards,
Deniz

claudiorossi_sap
Participant

Hi

in our BW on premise system we use BW OPEN HUB daily to exract files for data integration with thirdy party system (CCH Tagetik) , we extract a CSV file and then a thirdy party system connector load the file to the thirdy party system.

  1. Is there in SAP DWC the possibility to produce file extraction or something like do BW OPEN HUB engine in BW on premise system ?   Or there is another technical route to integrate thirdy party systems that must take data from SAP DWC ?

or in SAP BW BRIDGE ?

2. Another question : in term of licensing implication extraction from bw to thirdy party system the BW open hub license cover this type of access... from SAP DWC or BW BRIDGE the possibility to extract file to integrate thirdy party system ( non SAP ) is included in licensing ? I hope yes

 

Best regards

 

 

 

DenizOsoy
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Product and Topic Expert
Hi Claudio,

thanks for your question and your interest.

In SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, it is not possible to proactively write the data automatically to a CSV file, however, this can be done manually. As an automated workaround it is possible to generate a technical SAP HANA Cloud User (Space Database User) for the relevant SAP Data Warehouse Cloud Space. While creating this technical user, the authorisations of this user are also defined (Enable Read Access (SQL), Enable Write Access (SQL, DDL, & DML), etc.). The data can then be consumed via this technical user within any 3rd party tool. SAP BW Bridge data, on the other hand, cannot be accessed directly and has to be accessed via SAP DWC Core. In terms of licensing, this is simply fine.

Kind regards,
Deniz
pgsridurga
Explorer

Hi Deniz,


Very informative. Thank you for sharing.


Regards,
Gnana Sri Durga Paruchuri

claudiorossi_sap
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Hi Deniz,

Can you confirm that you are talking about ODBC data protocol and the related help is this --> Consume Data in a Third-Party BI Client

I see that DWC can also expose data trought ODATA but i'm not sure that this protocol is usable for thirdy party systems, because in this forum Using the Data Warehouse Cloud OData API with SAP Analytics Cloud it is written that
this possiblity is in roadmap but I don't know if today there is this possibility. I see also this SAP help and is not clear if ODATA is only limited to Sap Analitycs cloud.
Can you explain me ?

Can you confirm that there aren't other way to expose data at now ?

Best regards!
DenizOsoy
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Hi Claudio,

Correct. With the technical SAP HANA Cloud User (Space Database User) I refer to the ODBC data protocol option.

In general, an alternative the SAP Data Warehouse Cloud OData APIs can be used to search and replicate data via APIs following the OData version 4 standard. For detailed information, see API Business Hub for SAP Data Warehouse Cloud. Attention: This approach requires that the target application can handle OData V4 with authentication type: OAuth Authorization Code. This blog post by my colleague olaf.fischer shows as an example how Microsoft Power BI can process SAP Data Warehouse Cloud data using the APIs.

Best regards,
Deniz

claudiorossi_sap
Participant
Hi,

so as I understood from your answer , today the ODATA APIs ,(described in this SAP Help --> Browse Data via the SAP Data Warehouse Cloud Public APIs  )  ,  can be used not only from Sap Analitycs cloud system but also from thirdy party systems ?

 

Best regards
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
Hi Claudio,

Yes, you got it right. Of course, under the condition that the target application can handle OData version 4 standard.

Best regards,
Deniz
saketrnc0283
Discoverer

Hi Deniz,

I reckon in your post you seem to have mentioned that BW 7.4 is not supported for conversion to SAP Data Warehouse cloud. The Conversion Guide from SAP does not state the same. Would you please be able to confirm.

Also, may you please be able to confirm that if we move using Shell conversion from SAP BW 7.4 SP16 to SAP Data Warehouse cloud latest version would we lose all our BW queries and will have to rework on them by making use of SAC stories.

Lastly, apparently  simplification list and conversion guide using Remote conversion seems to be unavailable at the moment. Are you aware by when these documents will be available?

 

Regards

Saket

 

 

 

DenizOsoy
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Hi Saket,

thank you for your interest and questions. We have a dedicated conversion blog post, regarding your questions, you might be interested in that too: Conversion to SAP Data Warehouse Cloud: Conversion Paths and Cloud Transformation Steps.

  • 1) Minimum start release for a sender system for a Conversion to SAP Data Warehouse Cloud, SAP BW Bridge is SAP BW 7.30 to 7.50 running on SAP HANA or Any-DB, and SAP BW/4HANA 2021. This means that SAP BW 7.4 can also be used as a sender system. So, please, where did you actually read that I mentioned that this is not supported?

  • 2) OLAP engine and OLAP-dependent functionality (e.g. analysis authorizations, query as info provider, query execution) is not supported within SAP BW bridge. This needs to be adopted within the SAP Data Warehouse Cloud (Core). Queries can also be transferred out of an SAP BW (on-premise) system into SAP BW Bridge using the Conversion Tools, and are then available as metadata artefacts. It is planned that Queries that are available as metadata in the SAP BW bridge environment, become available in SAP Data Warehouse by a transfer mechanism (See roadmap). However, some manual effort/ re-implmentation is indeed required.

  • 3) The Simplification List is currently in preparation (see SAP Note 3154420). The conversion guide for remote conversion is currently being completed by our experts and will be available soon.


Best regards,
Deniz
saketrnc0283
Discoverer
Hi Deniz,

Thanks for your prompt response!

There is a wealth of information in your point 2. I will appreciate if you could clarify my below written doubts:-

In point 2 you have mentioned 'This needs to be adopted within the SAP Data Warehouse Cloud (Core)' - Do you mean here the adoption at SAP Data Warehouse cloud(Core) as mentioned in the attachment below? Also let me know if it is mandatory to be at BW/4HANA to have such adoption possible or even being at BW 7.4 is okay.


Getting Started with SAP Data Warehouse Cloud | SAP Help Portal

 

In point 2 you have mentioned 'It is planned that Queries that are available as metadata in the SAP BW bridge environment, become available in SAP Data Warehouse by a transfer mechanism'

Could you again confirm that this is applicable to BW 7.4 as well and not just BW/4HANA.

I am asking these question for both scenarios mentioned in your point 2 because I want to ensure that when we migrate from BW 7.4 -> DWC we are able to make use of BW queries that are already created.

Regards

Saket
DenizOsoy
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Hi Saket,

technically, the query import of transferred queries from the SAP BW Bridge environment to SAP DWC Core will have no relation to the SAP BW/4HANA Model Transfer, so an SAP BW/4HANA is not essential for this. Conceptually, however, the two features are very similar. We will provide more detailed information on the procedure soon. Yes, queries that have been transferred from an SAP BW 7.4 system via the conversion tool to SAP BW Bridge can then also be used as a foundation. However, as already mentioned, there will be a few limitations. Regarding the limitations for the query import, you can orientate yourself on the limitations for the SAP BW/4HANA model transfer, see SAP Note 2932647. The functionality of SAP Data Warehouse Cloud is constantly being expanded, so we aim to reduce the limitations in the future.

Best regards,
Deniz
claudiorossi_sap
Participant
Hi

Is there any sap basis technical prerequisite in term of minimal supported SAP ECC release and Sap support package for SAP ECC on premise system for direct connection and integration to SAP DWC ( without using BW BRIDGE )  ?    Example for consuming ECC remote table

 

Thanks in advance
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
Hi Claudio,

thanks for your question and your interest.

To connect Remote Tables to ABAP based systems with DWC Core, currently SAP HANA Smart Data Integration and the Data Provisioning Agent are used. Please find more information here. The ABAP adapter retrieves data from virtual tables through RFC for ABAP tables and ODP extractors. The SAP ABAP Adapter is a client to functions delivered via modules that are delivered via PI_BASIS. Extra coding was required in order for these functions to support RAW and/or STRING data types. The valid PI_BASIS releases are listed in the Support Packages and Patches section of SAP Note 2166986. (Please note that these functions were originally developed for SAP Data Services. Ignore references to the SAP Data Services version; all references in this SAP Note relevant to PI_BASIS apply to all SAP HANA smart data integration versions.)

Best regards,
Deniz
claudiorossi_sap
Participant


Hi Thank you very muck for your answer, very clear

Another question:

I See that is possible to connect one or more Microsoft SQL server Database instance ( thirdi party productS - not SAP instance ) located in my internal network to SAP Data wharehouse Cloud for read and import some table from this SQL DBs to SAP Data wharehouse cloud using SAP DP agent .

Actually i have connected this MS SQL databases ( that are MS SQL SERVER EXPRESS EDITION ) to our SAP BW on premise with DB connect in RSA1 tcode and it work fine.

My question is : does DP agent support SQL SERVER EXPRESS EDITION or only enterprise edition as source DB system ? in my searches i found that only real-time replication probably is not supported without enterprise version of MS SQL server, but the other way of read data from SQL SERVER EXPRESS EDITION for import in SAP DWC seems are possible because not denied.

Can you confirm this for sure is technically possible ?

 

I also undestand that if i don't want to expose my SQL DB directly to internet i can use SAP CLOUD CONNECTOR in the middle between SAP DWC and my SQL SERVER DATABASEs.

Can you confirm is possible ?

thanks in advance

Best regards!

DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
Hello Claudio,

Thank you for your question and your interest. Actually, I am not an expert regarding MS SQL Server, but from my side I can give you the following answers:

#1 As far as I know, SAP does not support MS SQL Server Express edition in general via SDI. We do not test and certify the connection to MS SQL Server Express edition. In the SDI PAM documentation there is nothing specifically mentioned about the Express edition. So, please log an incident via SAP Support Portal and request information on support of MS SQL Server Express edition via SDI.
#2 Regarding the Cloud Connector, you are not completely right. If the DP Agent is installed in the same private corporate network as the MS SQL Server, there is no need to expose the MS SQL Server to the Internet.

Best regards,
Deniz
Hi Deniz,

Your blogs and videos are very informative, thank you for that. I have a question on greenfield scenario.

In Figure 5- Architecture of End-to-End Greenfield scenario, there is mention of SAP BW Bridge. Is it mandatory to have SAP BW Bridge for end-to-end greenfield scenarios? If not, please share link/diagram where I can go through the architecture for the greenfield scenario? My understanding so far-  SAP BW Bridge is required when we migrate meta/transactional data from BW 7.5 and higher to DWC.

Regards

Ajay
DenizOsoy
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Hi Ajay,

Thank you for your feedback and your interest.

Figure 5 is indeed about the greenfield scenario with regards to SAP BW Bridge. This offers our customers to leverage their existing SAP BW (On-Premises) skills and to build new use cases in the Public Cloud. Here we are providing e.g. Enterprise-ready staging layers of SAP BW for managing data loading with partitioning, monitoring, error handling or Connectivity & Business Content via proven SAP BW-based data integration (Extractors) from SAP ECC and SAP S/4HANA.

Of course, it is possible to implement a greenfield use case in SAP Data Warehouse Cloud Core context without SAP BW Bridge.

Best regards,
Deniz
DenizOsoy
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Hi Saket,

just for your info. We have now published a dedicated blog post on this topic, see Entity Import & Model transfer for single query – SAP BW bridge.

Best regards,
Deniz
claudiorossi_sap
Participant
Hi

Thank you vm for your answer.

Looking in SAC and DWC tenant i see that there is no the possibility to customize user password policy, i mean i see that SAC an DWC use SAP cloud Identity porvider to authenticate users. ... so i search for any documentation for password policy in SAC and DWC but i only found OSS note 2856530 that write that password policy are not configurable and , the worst thing, is that user password never expire !!! I think this is not compliance with international password policy rules... so please can you tell me if  i'm wrong or if there is any possibility to configure these policies for SAC and DWC ?

thank you

 

Best regards

 
DenizOsoy
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Hi Claudio,

thanks for your interest in our solutions.

By default, SAP Cloud Identity Authentication is used by SAP Data Warehouse Cloud. SAP Data Warehouse Cloud also supports single sign-on (SSO), using your identity provider (IdP). In your custom IdP you can configure of course whatever you want. A custom identity provider is a separate solution, like for example Azure AD, and is not part of SAP Analytics Cloud or SAP Data Warehouse Cloud. Therefore the change in configuration is to be applied directly in the solution, not within SAP Analytics Cloud or SAP Data Warehouse Cloud. Also no access to SAP Analytics Cloud or SAP Data Warehouse Cloud is required to make the change, only an access to the Identity Provider, eg Azure AD.

Best regards,
Deniz