SAP MII ends support, no new release?

[Ganimede-Dignan]

Hi,

at my latitude, some consultants is telling customers, creating considerable dismay and concern, that MII will be discontinued on 31.12.2027 and that there will be no new releases beyond 15.5, the only SAP strategy is DMC. Is this also your opinion? It's so strange.

Thank you.

Bye.

[danilosantosbr]

Hi Ganimede,

In my opinion if SAP discontinues the improvements in SAP MII they will go back to zero in the manufacturing area. That is, as they were before the acquisition of Lighthammer.

Factory personnel still consider the SAP MII to be a good way to get data from SAP and also send it. That's what we still see in our customers. This is due to the speed with which we develop projects with MII and also to the reduced number of people involved in the SAP MII project. Things get easier.

We have already tried to offer SAP DMC to our customers and show some SAP solutions within BTP and our impression is that the factory solutions available within BTP are not so well seen by shop floor people who have decision making power.

In addition, there is a lot of resistance in factories when we talk about the cloud. Maybe that will change one day, but costs are still high and not everything can travel through the cloud.

Instead of discontinuing they could evolve the tool, I as a developer and customer would be very happy if...

SAP removes SAP MII from SAP NW and gives flexibility to create container in Dockers and have our applications according to the architecture of each project. That way we wouldn't be stuck with a server as big as SAP NW.

In this way we could create our local/cloud projects and have visualization projects (Intelligence) or integration (API) according to the SAP customer's needs. All this on-premises or in the cloud. SAP already has a standard in SAP MII and would follow suit, but the architecture is scalable whether on-premises or in the cloud.

We could have the solutions marketed in the SAP Store as they currently exist in other solutions.

Among other improvements, I believe that every SAP MII developer could contribute to improving the tool a lot. The potential is there and so are the customers. I just think that SAP with DMC is evolving into something that is not as widely accepted because of the challenges the industry still faces. The speech is beautiful, but the reality is different.

That's my opinion. I believe in SAP MII and that it will continue for a long time at SAP.

Regards,

Danilo Santos

[erwanbastard]

Hello,

I completely agree with you Danilo. SAP MII is widely used and often in local application with strong integration with machines and PLCs in factories. Many customers have saved a lot of money by allowing factories and shipments to continue despite network disruptions or access to the central ERP.

I don't see how SAP can announce the end of life of a product without offering an alternative and tools for migrating to the new offer.

Regards.

Erwan.B

[JarleiN]

hi Erwan,

I understand there are some important differences between DMC and Mii:

1. Mii: Necessary to develop the scenario you need, for example, the integration with the supervisory systems, the necessary dashboard, the production order appointment, the integration with QM, and the necessary results, etc.

2. DMC: The integration and management dashboard are already available, and the integration with SAP to control the production order is also defined, many reports are available.

So, you need to consider the cost to implement DMC / Mii and the technical team available to support you.

[agentry_src]

MII has always been a bit of a conundrum for SAP as it is a toolkit rather than an application. The sales and marketing folks know how to sell applications, but have little enthusiasm for selling something with which one can rapidly and easily build applications.

I think SAP will not go to zero in manufacturing, but I do think they will lose some customers if they discontinue providing updates to MII. And there will be quite a few angry ones. DMC is cloud based and many will resist putting their production livelihoods in the cloud even those which are not restricted from doing so.

Cheers, Mike